Who else hates this style of automatic gearstick?

"If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent" (essextee) 09/24/2013 at 17:02 • Filed to: None

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Not the console mount, but the pattern. I know it lets you fit more positions into the space, and prevents accidentally bumping it more than one gear, but I find it awkward and annoying to have to shift through.

No, I didn't take the picture while driving.

matt > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:03

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Is this from a Sienna?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > matt 09/24/2013 at 17:05

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¡Si, Señor!

HammerheadFistpunch > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:06

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could be worse...

Or just slightly worse...

matt > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:08

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As for the pattern I don't mind it to much. Then again I've only driven it a couple times.

Driver_41 > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:11

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I actually prefer a shift pattern like this for an automatic (well, really I prefer column shifters, if the car is doing the work for you there's no need to waste console space, but anyways). The reason being that the detents are actually very logically laid out and you can change gears without looking. It's the same pattern as a column shifter, actually, you just slide left or right instead of towards or away from you.

RotaryLover > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:11

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I like mine.

Takuro Spirit > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:13

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My wife's isn't so bad. I am able to use one motion to push it across and down enough to not have to jag around with every gate.

duurtlang > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:18

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No idea. I drove an automatic for the first time in 4 years last week. A new VW Touareg. I don't even remember how its style was, all I remember is moving it to D, and after parking it moving it back to P. Such an awkward sensation, driving an automatic.

lonestranger > Driver_41 09/24/2013 at 17:18

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Wha?

I've never seen a column shifter with that kind of pattern.

Casper > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:19

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I hate everything about them. Not just the pattern, but the whole design and concept. At this point they don't actually shift anything, so why even have them be a shifter? Might as well just be a turn knob like some of the Dodges have.

Nibbles > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 17:20

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LOOK WHAT YOU HAVE STARTED

Driver_41 > lonestranger 09/24/2013 at 17:30

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You're right, its not quite the same, but the operation actually becomes similar because of how the detents are. If you're in drive with this console style, a slide in one direction either gets you neutral or a downshift. To get 2 downshifts or reverse requires 2 direction changes. A column shifter will go from drive to neutral with one direction change (up), but you still need to do 2 changes to get a downshift (towards you and down. Eh nevermind, just believe me that its easier to do by feel, I promise you that.

lonestranger > Driver_41 09/24/2013 at 17:37

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Column shifters operate identically tho this style of console shifter:

The motion of pulling the column shifter towards you does the same function as the thumb button on the console shifter. With either shifter, you need to perform a second action in order to select reverse or lower gears.

Driver_41 > lonestranger 09/24/2013 at 17:50

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I really wasn't trying to bring up the subtleties of column shifters, but they don't act quite like a linear shift pattern, or at least my Crown Vic didn't. To get out of park, you had to first pull towards you and then you could start moving down. If you let the return spring take over you'd feel the shifter move away from you 1 level as you hit Reverse and then away from you one more time as you moved down into Neutral. From Neutral, you did not have to pull the shifter towards you again to move down to Drive. To keep moving down the gears though, it was one notch towards you and down to hit 2, and then again one notch towards you and down to get 1. The only point I'm getting at was that if you used the return spring to feel the detents, you could feel where you were without having to look at the indicator. If you always just pulled towards you all the way and then started moving up and down, you had to watch the indicator to know where you were. All of this really have little to down with my original point, which was that I like the windy console shifters because I can use them without looking down.

lonestranger > Driver_41 09/24/2013 at 18:06

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Ahh, I kinda see. Unlike your Crown Vic, in my Sierra (and most cars I've driven, though I didn't pay that close attention) the shifter does move linearly. If I were to pull & hold the lever towards me and move it from Park through everything to 1st gear and back, it's a straight line, the distance between the handle & the steering wheel remaining constant.

Turner950s > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/24/2013 at 20:08

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I love the Sienna's autotragic shifter! I also love the fact that my 06 Sienna doesn't require you to put your foot on the brake to start it.

As far as minivans go, this is a pretty damn good one. 4 wheel drifts through the snow in the AWD version are awesome. There's nothing like hurling 3 tons sideways at speed. If only I could figure out how to disable traction control...

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Turner950s 09/24/2013 at 20:25

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There's a button about four inches to the right of and below the steering wheel. I could hit it in my sleep, it's part of my start-up procedure for the car.

oldestyoungn > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 05/22/2014 at 17:02

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Sienna? I find the times I've used the separate gears it's really easy to under/over shift